So on Goldfrapp's Lovely Head they use the pitch tracking function of the Ms-20 to create some squawking vocal-esque sounds. See 1.16 of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxfJ86zDHP4
So would Virta be suitable for this kind of sound? Or would I be better looking at Reaktor etc?
yea, virta can do this, no problem. try the demo!
add virta to a vocal track and paste this patch into it for a rough idea. you'll need to tweak it depending on vox levels, etc...
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"lfo_rate_p": 1,
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thanks garf!
That's great. But I can't seem to turn down the dry signal. I've browsed through the manual and played with some knobs but I still haven't found the right control.
The AUDIO "pre" is patched to the OUTPUT "aux in" in this patch. So if you remove that patch cord, you should no longer hear the dry signal.
So maybe I'm being dumb and not getting a key feature of Virta, but when I remove the audio pre patching from the output, I still hear the original sound, just a bit quieter. I imagine there is a way to just hear the oscillators?
Also I've been fiddling with knobs and can't get rid of a digital glitching sound. I'm on an i7 so I don't think Virta's overloading the system, they seem like artifacts.
What host are you using? On some hosts apparently the default setup for a music effect like Virta is to leak the dry signal through. If you have Ableton Live, you can try the setup shown in the Virta manual as a reference.
There may be some glitches that come up with the current version, especially on Mac Pros. Please try the beta available here: http://madronalabs.com/media/virta/Virta1.2b5.pkg and let me know if it gets any better!
Oh it seems to be an issue with Reaper then. Logic X worked just fine and the beta seemed to remove the glitches.
I think I'll have to demo Virta from scratch then, as I wasn't getting the genuine experience.
Here's a link that may provide a way to get it working in Reaper:
http://forum.cockos.com/showpost.php?p=1638088&postcount=2
Like so many things in Reaper I think it's possible but very much not obvious.